For the past several months I have been listening to many true crime podcasts about people who are trying to fraud their way to acclaim or riches. And because of the cyclical nature of content, the fraud of the season is – medical fraud true crime.

This series had an 80s vibe to it, despite that it’s so modern. Perhaps it’s the uber-wealthy and glamorous guests on the ship, but all the locales were gorgeous, the outfits were bespoke, and the boat seems to gleam in solid gold. What keeps it grounded is the shaggy detective played by Mandy Patinkin who seems hammered the whole time, but also sees everything happening on board this ship.

Recently I had a chat with Sarah Meckler, the host of Golden State Media Concepts (GSMC) Book Review podcast about Pretty Girls Get Away With Murder. In addition to the link to the podcast, she also was kind enough to share with me the transcript of our chat. Here are some of the highlights!